Posts about Politics
Edit: Thanks so much for all the comments! I talked to both my mom and fiancé and realized the real problem was really me all along. I was never specific about my political views to my mother and whenever she tried talking about politics that I didn't agree with, I never stopped her. This ended up being a one sided thing where she believed she had more power because she was able to talk about her views, but I wasn't. I stood up to her and told her exactly how I feel about all of this and how I don't want her to bring my sisters into this when they don't need to be involved. She agreed to do her best and give them more freedom to make their own choices. As for my fiancé, after reading many comments and hearing about what I said to my mom, he realized how unreasonable it is to ask someone to apologize for who they vote for. He is still not happy when she votes for people who will take away our rights, but is learning to tolerate my mom when we visit her and forget all about what happens behind the scenes.
So a little background. My fiancé and I are both gay and have been together for about 4 years now saving up for our wedding. We are both Democrats. My mom on the other hand, is a Republican. While she claims to support us 100%, she continues to vote only Republican, no matter what. Now we've just refused to bring up the topic around her for a while, until the 4th of July.
On the 4th of July we all had planned to visit my older sister, who is also a Democrat, to celebrate the day. This was soon after Roe v. Wade was overturned so naturally we were very uncomfortable at the idea of abortion being illegal, along with the thought of gay rights possibly being taken away later. Because of this, my fiancé refused to visit my sister because he didn't want to see my mom who did arrive. We lied at first and said it was because he was tired, but eventually the truth came out - and she was not happy.
Now my two little sisters, 18 and 16, still live with my mom with the 18 year heading to college very soon. She does not have any political views of her own and listens to exactly what my mom says. My mom knows this and often uses my sisters against me saying things such as "you're making your sisters very upset" whenever I upset my mom, when they're not involved in any way. The 18 year old and I have always been very close and it really hurts me to know that my mom is painting me as the enemy.
Now back to the 4th of July, there was a huge argument over text in which my mom attempts to make me feel guilty by saying that I'm choosing politics over family. My 18 year old sister ended up crying the entire time and not eating any of the food they made because of it. I explained that she doesn't realize how much she is hurting us and that it's hypocritical to say she supports us, but yet votes for people who will hurt us.
Now the present. My fiancé told me now that he doesn't want to see my mom at Christmas time either. I'm a very forgiving person and I'm fine ignoring politics to spend time with family, but he isn't ok with it anymore. He wants an apology for voting for people who will take away our rights from my mom or we won't visit her. As for me, if I had to choose my fiancé over the rest of my family I would choose him no matter what, but I'm still very conflicted over this.
Can literally go anywhere else on the internet and talk politics. I come here to read about growing up in the 70s and 80s, basically to do a little time traveling and get away from anything related to this current day and age. That is all.
We're over a half-decade into the Trump/post-Trump era, and the bygone era of Obama vs. McCain politics, "normal" politics, feels so long ago that it's almost impossible to feel what the vibe was like. The era before Qulty QAnon Antifa 1/6 Marjorie-Taylor-Green Covid nonsense, a world when there were still just 2 genders, where politicians still pretended to be reasonable.
I.....want normalness again.
If U.S. politics is ever to de-polarize, we are some concessions you absolutely must have from the right/Republicans/conservatives?
Asked this question yesterday in the conservative sub, had some good discussions. Now I’d like to get some answers from this sub…
The current American political climate is arguably the worst the country has ever been polarized (ideology, party, etc.) If we are to ever repair this polarization and bring it back towards cooperation and bipartisanship, what are some concessions that you, as a liberal, absolutely need to get from the right, conservatives and the Republican Party?