Posts about Community standards
Kinda IDW Shower Thought: Community standards (like Facebook's and YouTube's especially) reinforce ideas that conflict is bad, instead of being a valuable tool to find positions, needs, desires and ultimately solutions.
"This" (understanding of political correctness) may have perverted our sense of democracy and democratic process at its root.
I feel that conflict which is carefully orchestrated 'for effect' within these frameworks of expression completely drowns out genuine conflict-driven solution finding. The latter may still happen between the lines or behind closed doors, but this prevents people to get in with their genuine positions rather than inviting them.
Going out in a bit of a limb: positions appear only as valuable as their alignment with one or the other as-large-and-powerful-as-possible interest group.
In response to multiple community members mentioning they were uncomfortable with our Horny Wednesday post series, we decided that addressing user’s discomfort was more important than others’ enjoyment of the posts, and recognized that it was aside from our main purpose of talking about books. Our Wednesday post series has been discontinued. We thank everyone who contributed to the discussion for their thoughtful and constructive comments.
If anyone has an idea for a fun weekly post to go in its place, please let us know in the comments. We’ll be brainstorming too.
We want to address a few things that concerned members brought up to us and invite discussion. Sorry if this is a little long. My contributions were short yesterday due to my work hours (and they were called out for not being enough), but we all spent a good amount of time yesterday absorbing, listening, and seeing how we could incorporate the feedback in a way that feels good for the subreddit.
First thing: Rule 9/sexual content. We do have a rule about sharing erotic/explicit content: “Oversharing explicit details about your real sex lives can make others uncomfortable; please refrain from doing this. Any posts or comments that promote explicit, non-book-related content like porn, sex toys, or adult websites will be removed.”
That being said, we don’t intend to ban talk about sex, desire, fictional erotica, etc. We do talk about books with erotic content here, and sometimes we talk about our personal affinity for that content (or lack thereof) in a way that isn’t overly personal or oversharing. We believe that sex and desire have a place in discussions about romance books and about feminism; sexuality is relevant to discussions about our identities as readers. That being said, we don’t want to make anyone unduly uncomfortable.
This is where we ask you: should we implement a standard of NSFW tags on posts and spoiler tags in comments? We have an informal, casually-enforced standard of spoilering any sensitive material, but we want to discuss people's comfort levels to make it more transparent. What kind of material do you think should be included in these standards?
Second point: community feedback. We’d like to reiterate that discussion of rules and community standards is welcome. We’ve previously changed rules in response to feedback from members who are active participants in our community and invested in changing it for the better. If an issue requires further discussion, in your opinion, do comment in the daily, post, or send a modmail.
We got some comments yesterday that we were shutting down discussion. We decided to lock the thread for reasons we mentioned before (brigading, etc.) and because in my opinion, a game thread titled Smash or Pass wasn’t really the best place for it. We acknowledge we could have done this in a better way. Going forward, we’ll address issues on a case by case basis, but know that there will always be room to discuss even if we have to lock a particular thread.
Please remember that your mods are human, have jobs, and aren’t going to be perfect. It’s hurtful to hear people come in and call us a “toxic cesspool” for things we’re actively trying to understand and fix. We want our community standard to be assuming the best of people rather than the worst, and bringing them into a conversation, rather than going on the attack and putting people on the defensive.
Last: harmful comments and posts. It is our community standard to remove/modify comments and posts that have harmful content whether from mods or members.
So there you have it. Please feel free to discuss in the comments. We are specifically looking for feedback from our regular members who have done so much to make this a nice community. Here are the specific discussion questions if you want a TLDR:
Should we implement a standard of NSFW tags on posts and spoiler tags in comments? If so, what kind of material do you think should be included in these standards?
If anyone has an idea for a fun weekly post to go in the place of Horny Wednesdays, please let us know in the comments. We’ll be brainstorming too.