Promoting dialogue about Israel and Palestine
As a result of a recent poll in the chat, I am curious to see the ideological self-affiliation based on what groups you affiliate with (the polls only let me do 5 + results)
Revisionist Zionist- Likud, Bibi, strong defense, pragmatism, wholeness of land, Zionism
Liberal Zionist- Meretz, Labor, Yesh Atid, Blue and White, social liberalism, two-state solution, Zionism
Religious Zionism- Religious Zionist Party, wholeness of Torah, Land, and People
Palestinian national-socialist- Fatah, Ta’al, Hadash, PFLP, neo-Marxism, Palestinian nationalism
Islamist- Ra’am, Hamas, PIJ, pan-Islamism, Islamism
As far as I can tell from what I read, I cant figure out how it started only, other than built up tensions over a long period of time and that both sides seemed to want the other dead or at least the extremists did, with atrocities on both sides.
Is this an accurate view and can you guys give me more information of what happened.
Given the current status quo, Israel is slowly moving towards an inevitability of an apartheid state (some believe we’re already there), or a one state between the river and the sea which will effectively spell the end of the Jewish state majority.
For the Zionist Left, neither of these options are acceptable, therefore for the last few decades they have been championing a two state solution as the only plausible solution to the conflict.
The mainstream Israeli Right on the other hand has not offered any kind of solution to the conflict whatsoever, and instead allowed the status quo to fester while continuing to choke the Palestinian areas through settlement expansion, which is why after 12 + years of Likud rule, we are further than ever from any kind of resolution, and the two state solution is effectively dead.
Given the above, I’d like to question those who consider themselves Right Wing, (Israelis or pro Israelis), what they think Israel should do in order to change the dynamics of the conflict:
1- maintain the status quo, since it’s not too bad for Israel, and there is no actual solution to the conflict
2- eliminate the PA, take over and rule the West Bank as it was Pre Oslo.
3- forcefully transfer the Palestinians, or some parts of the Palestinian population out of the West Bank to Jordan (or wherever).
4- a different solution.
Ending martial law in Area C (70% of the West Bank, not the Palestinian population centers) has become a hotly debated issue in Israel since in the election. Martial law was imposed on WB during the Six Day War and rolled back during the Oslo Accords, but remains over what is known as “Area C.” There is also a law that Jews committing crimes in WB are transferred to civil authorities but non-citizens (ie Palestinians) remain in military authority.
Bezalel Smotrich is demanding power of WB in coalition negotiations presumably to end the martial law in WB- replacing it with the uniform application of Israeli civic law over all the residents and land of Area C.
Some say that this would be a setback for a two-state solution while others say this would make life for both Jews and Arabs in the West Bank easier.
I found the possible worst subreddit.
While I was looking for subreddit related to Israel/Palestine so did I eventually find r/hamassupporters. Which I find absolutely disgusting, since they are supporting an terrorist organisation.
And I’m also looking for this subreddit’s opinion on the matter.