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The Winter War revisionism needs to stop

r/HistoryMemes - Hard to swallow pills for Ir/HistoryMemes Finland lost both the Winter War and/the Continuation War 54 543
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mfw i'm currently sitting in history class about this exact topic

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Has your teacher busted out "omg simo hayha 5,000,000 CONFIRMED kills" yet?

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They didn't lose. They just strategically surrendered.

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I didn't lose, I merely failed to win!

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As a finn i can say that in finnish school they say that we lost

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Strong US in Vietnam vibes

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· 7 mo. ago
Senātus Populusque Rōmānus

Yeah Pétain was the shield protecting France and De Gaulle was the sword attacking the Nazis.

I love revisionism

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Advancing towards future victories.

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He he. They did lose. But they did kick some serious ass of a power much stronger than themselves lol.

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· 7 mo. ago
Just some snow

I second this

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Finland basically ran out of manpower. IIRC by the end of the Winter War they were looking at a 20% attrition rate, which is about the point where modern armies start to lose cohesion. There were actually several occasions late in the war where the Soviets broke through Finnish lines but failed to exploit the breakthrough because of Finnish feigned retreats early on.

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· 7 mo. ago
Just some snow

This is the way

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Yes the soviets obtained something worse than a Pyrrhic victory. They could have absorbed the losses from it, the unintended effect though was it enticed hitler even more to invade. If they had not attacked Finland and taken the nazis threat seriously, maybe the initial assault by the nazis wouldn’t have been so devastating.

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The USSR's goals were to annex Finland into the USSR and to "secure Leningrad". They didn't achieve either, since the still-independent Finns participated in the Siege of Leningrad beginning the following year - the deadliest siege in history. Finland's main goal was to prevent the Russians from conquering their country, which the Finns achieved. A tactical victory for the USSR in that they gained some territory, but a strategic defeat. Saying that either side won or lost without further elaboration is silly.

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· 7 mo. ago
Just some snow

For a while...

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This is what is gonna happen to Ukraine. it is obvious that they can’t hold off all of Russia, how ever, that doesn’t mean that they can’t take as many Russian with them as they can

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Aimo Allan Koivunen is a legend.

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Finland managed to make it a Pyrrhic victory for Stalin. They turned defeat into something Russia couldn't afford. That's why it was particularly heroic. Winning was never an option.

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