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Posted by2 months ago

Reminder that it’s WB who don’t want Henry Cavill to be SUPERMAN, Cavill has been pushing for movies but WB are just not interested

r/DC_Cinematic - Reminder that it’s WB who don’t want Henry Cavill to be SUPERMAN, Cavill has been pushing for movies but WB are just not interested
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Keep in mind we don't know the story he wanted to do

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And where does it even say that WB doesn’t want Henry as Superman, he says that WB didn’t like the ideas he suggested but wanted him to fix their broken ones - which probably meant that WB wanted him to fix the DCEU, like retcons and such.

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He wanted to do superman at herogasm

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Hey everyone. Stop basing all your hopes on rumors.

Thanks- Your daily PSA

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· 2 mo. ago
The Joker

I think it's much more complicated than that. For what I've seen, WB want Cavill back, and Cavill wants to come back - they just can't agree on terms. Cavill wants a movie, with full creative control, and arguably wants more money - WB wants him to do cameo roles in other people's films.

I don't think WB have the confidence in a Henry Cavill-led Superman film, which I personally disagree with, as shown by the passion that fans had yesterday, people want to see him back in the cape. They perhaps want to test the waters with cameo roles, to see if there is an interest in this version of Supes.

I can't help but see both sides of the argument. Cavill is a rising star, and has every right to demand more money, but WB as the studio who owns the character also has a right to dicate where they want the character used, and how. If neither side can play ball with each other, it probably is just better to recast the role and move on - which it saddens me to say, as I really want to see Cavill return.

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· 2 mo. ago · edited 2 mo. ago

I think this is probably it. Henry wants a guarantee of a new solo film and maybe some creative control, WB doesn’t want to give that yet and wants to see how it goes with supporting roles and cameos to gauge interest before going to another solo film. I can see both sides if that is truly what we’re dealing with.

From Henry’s perspective, going from the starting hero of this universe and star of his own films to cameos and supporting roles is kind of insulting, but even he has to realize the characters image needs some rehabilitation after all the Snyder debacles

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The passion a couple thousand fans at a comic con, this does not translate to a general audience that would make a 200 million dollar film profitable

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Very wise and measured view. Thank you. I wish more of us (Cavill/Snyder fans) could express ourselves with such mindfulness! I 100% agree with you.

Edit: just occured to me, though I could be misinformed: wasn't Cavill originally on for a Superman trilogy AND JL? If so, him expecting another solo film as non-negotiable is a little easier to understand. Anybody?

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I don't think WB have the confidence in a Henry Cavill-led Superman film

Which is just bizarre, given the things they are actually willing to take risks on. Blue Beetle? Zatanna? Batgirl? Black Canary? Birds of Prey? Superpets? A Flash movie with Ezra Miller? Those are worth the risk, but not the most famous superhero of all time, with a popular actor whose star has only risen in the years since MoS, with successful directors behind hit movies making pitches?

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If WB really wants him they should offer him a deal like Harrison Ford got to do Star Wars, do this movie and you get to do a movie you want

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Hard Snyder fans going to attack me, but Cavill wants more control, because he doesn't want to be in a movie where a toilet gets cracked in the head of Superman that he cannot have anything to say on it.

He is a very talented actor who embraces his every single role and this time he wants to also shape the character of Superman as well. He wants to be treated and respected like top class hollywood actors and wants a good budget to not have silly cgi effects never again. Who can ever blame Cavill for demanding all these.

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WB wouldn’t know a good idea if it kicked them in the balls and if they manage to stumble into one by accident they’ll cover it up with a bunch of shit before sending it out

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WB has taken the most popular superheroes of all time and performed worse at the box office than Guardians of the Galaxy in a time when just calling something a super hero movie will guarantee at least 2-300 mil at the box office. Both the original takes of the new Batman and Joker were far better than anything in the mainline. There are no 2 sides to this, anything Cavill is suggesting deserves more of a shot than anything DC can come up with, I don’t care if it’s an entire movie in Bizarro world.

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We have to remember that Cavill's last 2 leading role as Superman weren't blockbuster hits. At the time of MoS, Iron Man 3 had just released and made a little over 1 billion. BvS, a movie with 2 of the most known super hero's of all time, didn't crack 1 billion at the box office.
I'm sure WB is now very cautious on Cavill returning. They're going to be pushing movies with stars they know will make them money. The Rock is an A list star whether you like him or not, but people will go see Black Adam on his name alone. Aquaman came out aftger Justice League and that was a garbage movie, yet Jason Momoa had charm as Aquaman and it made over 1 billion.

WB is definitely pushing for people who will make money now and while Cavill can make money, I'm sure they're just being very cautious about him right now.

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· 2 mo. ago
In the Sun.

WB wants him to do cameo roles in other people's films.

This just makes no fucking sense at all. He is Superman, why would you want to relegate him to a role similar to what the Hulk does in the MCU?

He isnt a tool, he is the most recognisable Superhero on the planet, if WB only want him to cameo in other peoples movies then Cavill is right to tell them to fuck off. That would be a massive waste of the character.

I cannot believe we will ever see a studio make worse decisions than what we are witnessing now with WB and the DCEU, it is a tour de force of incompetence. If it wasnt for the fact that Batman/Batfam movies are a license to print money then the whole DCEU would be dead, which is just unimaginable given the characters we are talking about here.

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WB clearly hasn't seen the Witcher

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REMINDER THAT this is about the OLD WB MANAGEMENT

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So much conflicting stories

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