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FDA limits use of Johnson & Johnson’s Covid-19 vaccine, citing clotting risk

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Seems like there would be more comments on this post...

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What id like to read is have they advanced at all in understanding why j and j and astra had this issues.

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Antivaxxers don't give a shit anymore. Scientist don't give a shit anymore, everyone for themself. Big tech and sleazy journalists in bed with gates, anyone who tried to question the profit margin was labeled, etc. They should all go to prison and stop selling out humanity.

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Boosted! ✨💉✅

I was expecting anti vaxxers

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Its be known about for awhile

In the uk they started limiting who could use the j&j vacci e due to this risk.

Ive sure subs like Conservative will be going "told you so" but really this isnt news and is something other countries are managing already. .

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Feel like this should be more talked about, but not in a “GOTCHA” type of way that both sides like to use. More as in awareness.

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More information is always better; as a consumer I like to be informed. Such a difference to see an American drug ad where half of it is potential side effects but then a short turn around vaccine isn’t really supposed to have its side effects talked about. I understand the greater good of wrangling a pandemic and glad they didn’t sit on this for the 50-75 years or whatever.

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That’s the part where there’s an issue…

This isn’t a competition of who’s right or who’s wrong… we’re all just trying to do what we believe is best with the information that we have.

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I don't think this should be seen as a big gotcha or a game changer in the vaxxer/anti-vaxxer argument. It's a known fact that NEW vaccines can occasionally have unforeseeable side effects. This really dangerous side effect was so rare that the pattern of blood-clotting only became noticeable after millions of people took the J&J vaccine. So of course it didn't show up in the clinical trials! Side effects THIS rare won't manifest in clinical trials consisting of thousands of people. To spot the problem, the vaccine would have had to have been tested on millions of people prior to deployment. Clinical trials on that scale simply aren't realistic. Fortunately, clinical trials large enough to screen out all common side effects are conducted. And this is why, in the first few months of a new vaccine's deployment, it is subjected to enhanced safety monitoring - organizations like the CDC go over hospital data looking for any worrisome patterns so they can pull the vaccine off the market if necessary. You don't do this with older established vaccines because they've been around long enough to show us all their possible side effects.

So yeah, the J&J vaccine can cause dangerous blood clotting, but that's not the whole story. The side effect is extremely rare, which is why it slipped through the clinical trials unnoticed. The side effect is MUCH rarer than deaths from covid, the vaccine still does a good job of immunizing against covid, this is a new vaccine, new vaccines sometimes have surprise side-effects, and this does not reflect poorly on the safety of all our other vaccines.

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Issue is, there are people who understand science. In science, you constantly accumulate information and adjust your course of action based on this. In a time of needing to quickly execute a vaccine, not surprising you see something like this.

On the flip side, there is a group of people who don't understand science. These people never ever change their mind, no matter the evidence. These people are dangerous and will run with this news as "proof" they are right.

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from the article.

The agency decided to limit the authorized use of J&J’s shot after conducting an investigation and analysis of reported cases of blood clots in combination with low levels of blood platelets, known as thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome, or TTS, that occurred one to two weeks following administration of the shot.

The findings of that analysis “warrants limiting the authorized use of the vaccine,” the FDA said in the statement, suggesting that potential benefits only outweigh risks for those for whom other the vaccines aren’t accessible.

unless i'm misreading something, it sounds reasonable to limit the use of the JnJ vaccine.

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Wait, if it causes thrombocytopenia (low blood platelets) how would they end up clotting? Don’t they have low platelets?

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Is this post shadow banned? It's major news and barely has traction compared to others posted after it. Posts about potential issues with the vaccines seem to always gets pushed down or deleted.

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